Episode 5: Schaubel-Daubel-Do!

0:12Justin: Welcome to the AudPod, where we're talking Kitchener Rangers hockey with the AudBalls themselves, Andrew and Justin. Take it away, fellas. Hey, Andrew.

0:29Andrew: Hey, Justin.

0:31Justin: Shove Level two.

0:35Andrew: All right, I'm out of here.

0:38Justin: Come on, man. Jason Schaubel he got his first career ohl win.

0:44Andrew: And is it shabble or Shoble?

0:46Justin: It's shabble.

0:47Andrew: Are you sure?

0:47Justin: That's what the Soo on the announcements.

0:49Andrew: I know.

0:51Justin: Well, if everybody could be wrong. But I'm going to stick with Shable.

0:54Andrew: Very exciting.

0:55Justin: Got us our first win. Got us. Got his first win.

0:58Andrew: Shoble Dobble. He was. He was due.

1:02Justin: He was due. He was due after that.

1:04Andrew: After that unfortunate incident that he had to go through in Windsor where everybody was sick, apparently. Everybody was pooping.

1:14Justin: That's what we learned. Everybody was pooping their pants.

1:17Andrew: And if that's the case, 12 to 2 is actually a pretty good score.

1:21Justin: Yeah, that's an okay score.

1:23Andrew: I'm actually kind of impressed.

1:25Justin: And they fought. That's nuts.

1:26Andrew: All right, if you were one of the guys who was pooping their pants or puking their guts out and you

1:32Justin: fought, that means you have to stay in the box for five minutes. I. Yeah, exactly. Right. Like, I just.

1:38Andrew: Could you imagine being stuck in the box with that guy?

1:40Justin: So we got some wins.

1:41Andrew: Yeah.

1:42Justin: Oh, we got some positive things. I'm so happy. Last week was such a downer.

1:45Andrew: Yes. We're not. We didn't curse them.

1:47Justin: Yeah.

1:48Andrew: Didn't curse them, did he, Nicola?

1:51Justin: He's back. He's back. He got suspended. He didn't even get hurt or even.

1:55Andrew: I don't know, maybe he did because he's. He's playing third parent.

1:58Justin: Swick is back.

1:58Andrew: Trent Swick.

1:59Justin: Trent Swick.

2:00Andrew: We love Trent Swick.

2:02Justin: Did you know that Tanner Lam is part of the Soo Men?

2:07Andrew: Tanner. Sorry, what?

2:10Justin: He's got laser eyes. That's what I also learned this weekend.

2:13Andrew: Like Lasik.

2:18Justin: That's exactly what I meant.

2:19Andrew: How come you don't ever see a. A hockey player with glasses?

2:23Justin: Brock Faber. His. That's true. His season photo this year. Has glasses.

2:28Andrew: Has glasses. Yeah.

2:30Justin: And we got a trade.

2:31Andrew: A trade. There seems to be a phenomenal amount of player movement in this league. I'm a huge fan.

2:37Justin: So this one, it just felt weird. It felt like everyone was trading sevens for sevens. I'm like, a player got moved, but also two sevens got moved each way.

2:49Andrew: They just did a Soupy for these random picks.

2:51Justin: We got Chris Grizzolia in the game on Sunday. He played third line with Mercer. And Botineau against Guelph. It'll be interesting to see where he lands. It sounds like he's playing. Okay, we got a little cat out of the bag business to deal with tonight. There's a game. It is on Wednesday. We are playing Flint. And we are currently recording on Wednesday.

3:11Andrew: So we won't know if they win. We don't know how they'll play. This will release on Friday, which is today because you're listening to it the day it comes out, of course. But we don't know what that's going to be because we don't have a crystal ball. If we did well, we wouldn't be doing this. We'd be rich because we would gamble

3:29Justin: legally on the ohl on.

3:31Andrew: No, not on the ohl.

3:33Justin: Okay.

3:34Andrew: On Korean women's soccer. You can now, I'm telling you, you actually.

3:44Justin: Oh, I know. That doesn't surprise. Yeah, you can. Yeah. The surprising part is us getting rich off of it. Chris Grizzolia.

3:51Andrew: It is Grassolia. Grisolia. Yeah, Grisolia. It's not Grizzolia or Grizzolia.

3:56Justin: I don't know. Grizzly Bear. The old Grizz.

3:58Andrew: Grizz.

3:58Justin: He's 19. He's the old Grizz.

4:01Andrew: Yeah, he is. But he looks good.

4:03Justin: He looks good. Yeah. It's good center depth for us, which

4:07Andrew: you were very concerned about in episode one, if you hearken back.

4:10Justin: Yeah, back to the olden days.

4:12Andrew: Way back in the olden days of episode one, you were quite worried about the center depth, sir.

4:17Justin: Today we're gonna. We got three games to recap.

4:20Andrew: Like we said. One is currently happening.

4:23Justin: We got two games to preview. And the Aud the end of the episode, so you have to keep listening. We are starting a segment about the greatest Ranger of all time.

4:36Andrew: The Groat.

4:37Justin: The Groat. The Groat. So we've both brought our first submission to the Grote. Is it Scottish? Groot.

4:49Andrew: And the Aud does sound Scottish.

4:51Justin: The Groot. The Groot. The Groot. So we brought our. Our each of our submission for this week. We haven't fully figured out what we're going to do with this, but there might be a bracket challenge coming. We're going to ask you because we don't know all the players, so we're going to.

5:04Andrew: Yeah, we want to involve the fans of the Rangers and the listeners of the Aud Pot, which are one in the Sam O'Reilly know. We're every getting in there.

5:13Justin: Every single Rangers fan is also a

5:15Andrew: listener of the AudPod.

5:16Justin: We know. Okay, let's recap some games. The, the first, the first game. He's stuck in it. Oh no.

5:24Andrew: He's stuck in it.

5:25Justin: The first game against Flint. First Flint. The Fire. The Firebirds. We won. True one. You know, are we. No, we lost. We lost 2:1 in overtime.

5:40Andrew: I was like, I, I, we did not win. It was actually disappointing because we, I

5:46Justin: deserve to win that one.

5:47Andrew: I felt like, yeah, we had all of like the possession and like the, if, if I knew the actual advanced metrics, I would bet that we did have that. Yeah. Yeah.

5:57Justin: What Advanced metric was 7.

5:59Andrew: 7. Just a singular digit.

6:02Justin: Isn't that how advanced metrics work? Back to back to the game against Flint. So we, we lost 21 in overtime. We're going to stick with the good, the bad and the ugly on this one.

6:13Andrew: We are unfortunately, yeah, a little bit of a bummer.

6:16Justin: What's your good?

6:17Andrew: My good is what we just kind of talked about in the sense of the effort and the puck possession. I thought it was there. I thought it was like, it was like it was one of those games where you're like, oh, like my wife even caught like kind of the tail end of the game. She was, she watched a fair amount of the game with me, but she caught the end and saw like the overtime goal and whatever. And she was even like, oh. Because like you like anybody could tell that it was a game that the Rangers probably should have won. I was a little bit worried that you'd lose one like that and then you'd kind of end up kind of like in a tailspin.

6:52Justin: Yeah.

6:52Andrew: It's like it was already like a rough start to the year.

6:55Justin: Yeah.

6:56Andrew: But yeah, my good was just like the effort. Yeah, man, you know what was your good?

7:00Justin: It was a great effort, specifically a great effort out of our captain, Mr. Andonofsky.

7:06Andrew: He was everywhere.

7:08Justin: He was everywhere. Terrific passes, destructive hits. He was all over Flint in the neutral zone. Like it was like a one man wrecking crew.

7:16Andrew: He's also just jumping up into the play.

7:18Justin: I love it.

7:19Andrew: And he looks way stronger and more comfortable with that than in the previous two years that I've seen him play hockey. I haven't like, it's limited that I've seen him play hockey, but I do remember he was a little bit more of a stay at home, steady Eddie. And like I can just see now like there's an inclination to be an offensive leader on the team as well. And like I don't mind when I see him down low on the forecheck. I haven't seen him get caught badly yet. No. So keep doing it.

7:46Justin: It's great. Yeah, I love. I love seeing it. He's. He's. He's really in there. He's getting in the dirty areas, but he's also. He's. He's getting a part of the offense, which I love. Okay. Next would be the bad, But I refuse.

7:56Andrew: Oh, you refuse?

7:57Justin: I really.

7:58Andrew: It really was a positive loss.

8:01Justin: It was. The only thing about it that was bad was that they didn't win. Jackson Parson. This was the next game after that, that drubbing against Windsor. He came back. He was super solid. The two goals against him, they weren't bad goals in any ways. The penalty shot, he just. Huge shot down. Penalty shot. It was huge.

8:22Andrew: It was huge. When it happened. When it happened. It felt like a pivotal moment. It did for Jackson Parsons early in the year. Yeah. So he's our guy. So I had faith. But it kind of felt like, is this going to be like one of those things where, again, negative momentum.

8:37Justin: Yeah. You could get in your head about it.

8:38Andrew: You get in your head about it, and it was just like another. It was just like another penalty shot. It just was like almost like a practice shot. It was nothing. He just. He was just there for it.

8:47Justin: All right. What's your. Did you. Did you.

8:48Andrew: I did have a bad.

8:49Justin: Okay.

8:50Andrew: And it wasn't that the Rangers were bad in any way. It was bad news Day. The goalie.

8:56Justin: Yeah.

8:57Andrew: For Flint. Yeah. Legit. Had a great game. He was so good. He was on. It was one of those things where there was a couple chances that probably. It goes in and they probably win in regulation. Nathan Day was on. I was pretty sad until I realized he was an Oilers prospect.

9:12Justin: Who's the other Oilers prospect that scored on us, boys?

9:15Andrew: The guy who scored. the Aud winner. Yeah. Yeah. Connor Klattenberg. Yeah. Yeah.

9:20Justin: The ugly. What do you got for the ugly?

9:22Andrew: It's ugly. It was ugly. And I don't want to ever single out just one guy, but Cameron Reid in overtime came off as guy. And who was Connor Glattenberg coming in. It was just a mistake. And unfortunately, it was a little too easy for him to come all that way. He came from his own zone. Yeah. All the way down, and it's three on three. So, like, realistically, it's not like, hey, man, like, you should have done this better. It was just kind of almost a momentary lapse in position.

9:53Justin: Yeah.

9:53Andrew: And he came off his man and took the cross guy when there was already a guy chasing to Come back down that way and would it have mattered? Would have Clattenberg just made a nice pass and it would have just still ended up in the net maybe. I don't think Parsons really knew what he was going to do. His teammates didn't really know what he was going to do. And so it was just one of those things where you're like, oh, man, that's too bad. I do think that there's tons of potential there. I've loved everything I've seen out of Cameron Reid as a player.

10:19Justin: Yeah, that was talking about him some more.

10:22Andrew: Yeah. You know. Yeah. In a very positive sense. But that was just kind of the ugly was that goal. It was just kind of like, oh, and no one's going to even try and poke. Check the puck away.

10:31Justin: No. Yeah. Yeah. So my ugly was the penalty shot Schneider got. He got a little out of. Out of position. And you can't. You can't go like that on a guy in a breakaway. He was clearly beat and he.

10:43Andrew: I mean, I guess there's arguments for and against there. Right. Is that if you can try, if you're trying to interfere, where you're not going to end up with a penalty shot, but maybe a penalty. Yeah. Then, yeah, I think that's the case.

10:57Justin: The penalty would have been okay, but he.

10:58Andrew: And I thought it was a bit strange because I thought that going to get that shot off. And then oftentimes the NHL, at least, they're very hesitant to call penalty shot through. And so sometimes I've seen like, that should be a penalty shot and the NHL doesn't call it.

11:13Justin: Yeah.

11:13Andrew: But I feel like we're in a. In a league that's maybe a little bit more fun.

11:16Justin: Yeah, I like the fun.

11:18Andrew: I do. I do.

11:19Justin: All right, Game two, Owen sound tack. I. We call them Owen Sound so much. I. I actually didn't know what their team name was. We won our first win of the season. That's three.

11:29Andrew: Two cashed in.

11:31Justin: So we finally get to do our new segment.

11:33Andrew: New segment. Winning segment.

11:35Justin: Winning. When we win, we're going to talk about the three stars, and we've broken them down like the first stars. We love that star.

11:43Andrew: We love it.

11:44Justin: The second is we like that star.

11:46Andrew: We like it.

11:46Justin: And then the third is we kind of question some of that.

11:49Andrew: It's like, it was good, but is it actually good or is it pretend good? Pretend good. Who's your first star? My first star or. Yeah. What concept?

11:58Justin: Yeah, it doesn't have to be a whom couldn't.

12:01Andrew: Yeah, it could be a thing. It could be a who.

12:03Justin: What? Could be a noun. Oh.

12:04Andrew: Could be a when. It could be the Juice's hair.

12:08Justin: It might always be that the Juices hair gets a first star nomination for every game.

12:13Andrew: I know. Yeah. Right. Our goalie friend. Not our guy, but our other guy.

12:20Justin: Our other guy.

12:20Andrew: Our other guy.

12:21Justin: Yeah.

12:22Andrew: Trouble. Yeah.

12:23Justin: He's my.

12:24Andrew: He's my first R2. Yeah.

12:25Justin: Flynn.

12:26Andrew: Definitely. I felt like should have been a win. There were times against the Owen Sound Attack.

12:31Justin: Maybe. Maybe.

12:32Andrew: Maybe you shouldn't have won that one.

12:34Justin: Yeah, it was a little tricky there. Was. There was getting hemmed in your own

12:37Andrew: zone a little bit there. And I was like, how is the. How are they? Just like missing the net and stuff. I'm like, this is.

12:43Justin: It was a lot of wide shots. Yeah.

12:45Andrew: It was like, this is good. But I'll. That's why I'll give credit to shovel. He was in good position. He's a big guy and he was forcing, you know, them to kind of throw stuff at him because he was locked in and he was in the zone and he looked confident.

13:01Justin: Starting in the second period, the first period, I felt like he had a few nerves.

13:05Andrew: I will argue that in the first period there were some weird bounces as

13:09Justin: the announcers were calling it the something Bay bounce.

13:13Andrew: The Bayshore.

13:14Justin: The Bayshore bounce.

13:15Andrew: Yeah. That must be a thing. We're learning.

13:17Justin: They just know their arena.

13:18Andrew: Also, Connor Smith, the captain there, huge guy, huge defenseman in Owen Sound. He is taking on a lot of responsibility now that Barlow is playing in Oshawa.

13:30Justin: Right.

13:30Andrew: And he looked good. He looked like a good player. He did. And I do single him out because I think we sat next to his family last season.

13:38Justin: Oh, really?

13:40Andrew: Oh, yeah.

13:40Justin: Remember that?

13:41Andrew: Yeah, we think we sat next to his family. I just remember being like they were

13:45Justin: so excited to see him. Yeah, it was great. No one else was excited for that. Owen sound was there. Second star. My second star was Mr. Laser Eyes himself, Tanner Sam O'Reilly nice. And this is when he got this nickname is because he was him and Missile Javic.

13:58Andrew: Yeah.

13:59Justin: I love watch chemistry there. I love watching Tanner Lam pass to Missile Javic. Yes.

14:04Andrew: There's just like they just know where each other all the time be. It's not even like where they are where they're going to. It's nice.

14:11Justin: In all three of these games, they agree they had some great opportunities.

14:14Andrew: The two of them together really did.

14:16Justin: So I loved it.

14:17Andrew: And I will say that Romano is. Is involved too. He's a good centerman for the Aud

14:23Justin: that's what I was going to say. Tanner Lam got two assists in this game, one with Misaljevic, one for Romano, and they were both just like, how did he get that puck to the Aud didn't even make sense.

14:34Andrew: My second star was Pug Life. Yeah. Yeah. P. Every time that line is on the ice, his line, not only are they driving play, but if they don't have the puck, watch out.

14:48Justin: Yeah.

14:48Andrew: Yeah. There's.

14:49Justin: You're. They're almost better without the puck. They're almost kind of without.

14:52Andrew: Yeah, exactly. Like, it's like. It's just so physical, and they cause turnovers and they cause chaos, which is good because they're not even. They're not even being asked to, like, put up points, but they are.

15:04Justin: Was. Was it this game against Owen Sound that Pug Life literally snatched the puck out of thin air right in front of the net, and Zach slammed it home.

15:13Andrew: It was one of those things of when you're relentless and your effort is at maximum all the time, and it gets later in the game and there's a weird bounce and you're in the right spot. It's not luck. Yeah, it's not luck. People would Sam O'Reilly that was a lucky bounce. And that's. That's lucky that he was there, right? No, no, no. He's literally pushing the pace, and he is. He is looking for something like that to happen, and it. It just came out, and he probably. Even if he wasn't expecting the buck to come out there, he was ready. Right. That's the thing, is being prepared for that sort of a bounce and. And just saying, I'm just gonna throw it on net, right? Rather than trying to make some sort of move or try and make, you know, take the perfect shot, he just threw it in there, and it was immediate. It was the goal, and that was it. That's all they needed.

15:59Justin: Who's your third star?

16:00Andrew: The third star is the concept of that. The Rangers played with resilience, basically, because I felt like they took some time off. There was Sam O'Reilly like that they came back from being down, but I didn't love how they were doing. A little bit of puck watching, and there was a little bit of, like, thankfully they didn't hit the net or Shabble was taking away angles or whatever it was, because there was. There was a part of that game where I was like, I think if. If Owen Sound was a little bit more accurate or a little bit more polished, this might have been a different game.

16:38Justin: And this leads A lot into. What my third star is, is that the Rangers did just enough to win this game. Owen Sound came out pretty hard in the first period. Yes. That's. They went up two nothing.

16:48Andrew: They did.

16:49Justin: Owen Sound took their foot off the gas. They did. Owen Sound lost that game more than the Rangers necessarily won that game, which is a little sad to say. They came back. They, they, they were consistent in the second and third periods and they got

17:02Andrew: their goals when they needed them. But it's funny because teams need to learn how to win those games too.

17:09Justin: Yeah.

17:09Andrew: Just the Sam O'Reilly that they need to learn how to accept a kind of a bad beat against Flint in the sense of like, yeah, we probably should have won that game. And then you leave it in the rear view and you say, well, we're going to go into and sound we're going to play. And then you kind of look and say, hey, we could have played better, but we got the win. That's a building block.

17:29Justin: Yeah. Game three.

17:31Andrew: Game three. So Guelph Storm, Battle of Highway seven.

17:36Justin: You said that last week.

17:37Andrew: You thought I was making that.

17:38Justin: I thought you made it up on the spot. That's a thing.

17:40Andrew: That's a thing.

17:41Justin: I learned something. We. We got another win.

17:44Andrew: We got another win also.

17:45Justin: 3, 2. Yeah, it was very good.

17:47Andrew: It was a power play. Actually scored.

17:50Justin: Is that your first star?

17:51Andrew: No, that's actually my third star. Well, I don't want to talk about it. Okay.

17:55Justin: It's my third star.

17:56Andrew: It's. Cat's out of the bag. We almost have to. Let's go the other way.

17:59Justin: Yeah. Okay. Third star power play.

18:01Andrew: Power play. Because it's been anemic. It's been. There might be just as many shorthanded goals, if not more scored against. Then there are power play conversions. The power play has actually been something where I'm like, okay, we're on the power play.

18:15Justin: Good.

18:16Andrew: I guess. Right? Like, are we going to get caught flat footed and turn it over and hang, you know, one of our two goalies that we love and adore out to dry? Is that going to happen? They got one. Yeah. They had two five on threes. They didn't convert.

18:31Justin: Yeah.

18:31Andrew: There were opportunities that probably could have went in. I do believe in the, the talent on that first power play line as far as to being able to, to convert.

18:40Justin: They have, they have all the right pieces there.

18:42Andrew: To me, they have all the right pieces and I mean Elena's got that power play goal against Guelph. It was beautiful. Yeah.

18:49Justin: Second star. My second star is that Cameron Reid bomb from the slot.

18:53Andrew: Yes. He's out of the doghouse, baby.

18:55Justin: Oh, man, he was so good.

18:57Andrew: Not that he ever was, but, you know, that, that. That makes me forget all about that other game.

19:02Justin: The best part about this goal is that we physically cannot rewatch it because the camera never saw the puck.

19:07Andrew: Yes.

19:07Justin: It was going so fast. They couldn't get. It was like one frame of the camera.

19:12Andrew: He's got to touch. Yeah. He's like I said, like, you make a mistake in another game, positionally or whatever, and then you come back and score a huge highlight reel kind of goal like that. And in a close game, that's good sign. I think he's a guy. He looks like a guy. Because even like, just like when he's buzzing around, he looks like a guy. Oh, for sure he's a guy. Yeah.

19:35Justin: That shot actually made me think.

19:38Andrew: A little.

19:39Justin: Little hint for my submission of Groot tonight. Groot.

19:45Andrew: So.

19:45Justin: But just a little hint. Okay. What's your first star?

19:48Andrew: No, I didn't get to my.

19:49Justin: What's your second star? What's your second star?

19:51Andrew: The top line. Yeah, the top line. We talked about it in the last. Feels like you're copping AudPod. No, but the top line, it's just. Majority of chances, they were. There was just there. There could have been. I. I know it was a tight game. It was a close game, but, like, they. They could have had a couple, and I think they could have had a couple in all these games because I think there's legitimate chemistry there. And it's exciting because you're like, oh, they're playing really, really well together.

20:14Justin: Yeah.

20:14Andrew: And it's. Every game, it seems like they're getting a little bit more lethal. I think we were talking before the season, we were talking about, this is a team with a 1A and a 1B and a 2A and a 2, 2B. I think they're a legitimate top line. I don't think there's any doubt that that's the top line. And they're just. They're pushing.

20:34Justin: Okay, what's your first start?

20:36Andrew: Oh, not on the top line, but I absolutely love this kid. I love this kid's interviews. I love this kid's talent. I'm excited because I know this kid is going to be a NHL just from the vibes and the effort out there.

20:53Justin: Can't wait to learn who this is.

20:55Andrew: It's Ellenist.

20:56Justin: Yeah.

20:57Andrew: Yeah. I Andrew I love this dude. I am so in this kid's corner. He had such a Good interview in Owen Sound.

21:04Justin: Yeah.

21:05Andrew: Between periods I was like, okay, that's a professional. He's a professional hockey player. He wants it. He's out there. He's out there every game and he, he plays like he wants it and it's going to happen for him. So I'm just excited to watch this guy's career.

21:21Justin: My first star is Pug Life. This was just another game of. Of Pug Life in the corners, grinding it out. Every game. He. He plays so hard. He got another goal in this game. He got. The dude's everywhere.

21:33Andrew: He is everywhere. I'm already such a big fan of this, of this squad. This is not like. And it's because of guys like Pug Life.

21:41Justin: And I love away announcers trying to pronounce his name.

21:44Andrew: Yeah.

21:45Justin: We don't try because we know that we would sound bad, but we love Pug Life.

21:51Andrew: I feel like I may have cracked the code. I texted you a bunch of things. Yeah, I think it's Pugliasi.

21:57Justin: Yeah.

21:57Andrew: But it could. That could be wrong.

22:00Justin: I think you're Right away.

22:01Andrew: Oh, yeah, I know.

22:02Justin: Trying to announce it. Bug. Buglies. Pull. Pull. Easy. Pull. Yeezy. So good. Love it. Sound like me. Okay. And as we said, game four is happening currently, so we're, we're, we're glossing, we're heading to previews. Okay. So we got two games this week. A little relief from the four games that we previewed last week. So we got a Friday night game and a Saturday night game. Uh, we're, we're on a three game

22:28Andrew: road trip right now.

22:29Justin: So tonight we're playing 4 Flint, then on Friday we're playing Soo Greyhounds. And then on, on Saturday we're playing Saginaw Spirit. So a little previewing. Again, I don't really know much about these teams, so I'm looking them up as we go. the Soo they're not having a great start their year. No. They've lost four of their five games. They've beat Guelph. Sounds like they've had some draft picks, like not show up, like not report in and.

22:54Andrew: Wow.

22:55Justin: Yeah. So. And, and players asking for trades. It just, it sounds like there's something not quite right going on in the city.

23:02Andrew: That's too bad because I've always, I've always loved their uniforms. Yeah. Their logo's sweet. Their logo sweet. Love the name, love the uniform. So hopefully, like, not this year. I hope we.

23:12Justin: Yeah, we hope we crush them after this game. I'm okay if they turn things around. Yeah, that'd be great on the exact opposite spectrum. Saginaw.

23:20Andrew: Yes. That's why I said.

23:23Justin: Ooh.

23:23Andrew: Yeah. I said we're playing Saginaw. Because one of the things I do know about this year is, is not to be trifled with.

23:31Justin: No. Yeah. So a couple of facts I found out. It's scary. So obviously they won the Memorial Cup last year, so that's a pretty hard cup to win.

23:42Andrew: Yeah.

23:42Justin: When we started this whole process, you told me that the Memorial Cup is probably the hardest cup to win.

23:48Andrew: Arguably.

23:49Justin: Arguably in all of sport.

23:51Andrew: Yeah, they. They won it. Yeah.

23:53Justin: So there's that.

23:54Andrew: I will asterisk that they were the host team.

23:57Justin: Sure.

23:58Andrew: Yeah. So they had a little break there and got all a little fresh, and then London came into town and they said, not in our house.

24:07Justin: Yeah. So they're currently ranked fifth in the chl.

24:11Andrew: Yeah.

24:12Justin: So that's.

24:13Andrew: They're cooking.

24:14Justin: They're cooking. The only. The only OHL team ahead of them in the chl, it's Brampton. So we don't have to face them this week.

24:21Andrew: Windsor's just getting no respect, huh?

24:23Justin: No respect.

24:24Andrew: Yeah. And also, was it Kingston and North Bay? That was like, nine nothing. Anyway, so.

24:30Justin: Yeah.

24:31Andrew: Yeah.

24:31Justin: So, yeah, Saginaw, they've won their last four games. They outscored their opponents 24 to 12, and they kind of have the CHL leading scorer in Michael Misa. So, yes. This dude.

24:43Andrew: That is a name to remember because

24:45Justin: he's going third overall this year is from all reports right now, NHL draft.

24:50Andrew: Yeah. And it can only go up because he's playing on, you know, what might be the strongest squad.

24:55Justin: He has 10 goals in five games. He's on pace for 163 points.

25:01Andrew: So he could either be third overall or he could be Robbie Shrimp. That's right. That's right, London. Not everyone's a stud in the NHL. Just kidding. Love, Robbie.

25:11Justin: Shit.

25:12Andrew: Go Wailers.

25:14Justin: So we're going to need a strong defensive game against Saginaw. Yeah. Now for our new segment, the Grot. The Groot. Yes.

25:27Andrew: The greatest Ranger of all time.

25:31Justin: You want to go first? You want me to go first?

25:32Andrew: I want you to go first. I came up with the segment, so you. And you've just run with it.

25:37Justin: You said the Aud I went, okay. This is a good way to learn some old players. As we talked about, we wanted to learn more about the team and the history of the team.

25:44Andrew: It's an organic way to do it, it feels like.

25:46Justin: So you brought this up. I was sitting, and I Was looking at these players and I was like, well, a. There's a ton of amazing players that

25:54Andrew: have played for Kitchener. Yeah.

25:55Justin: And then also, then I was like, ooh, bracket challenge.

25:59Andrew: I love bracket. I love a bracket.

26:01Justin: So. So the. The. They all. Everything started firing at once. Okay. My first submission for the Groots.

26:10Andrew: The Groots.

26:12Justin: He played for the Rangers. 157 games. 271 points. It's pretty good.

26:21Andrew: That's pretty good.

26:23Justin: He has. What did we say is the most

26:25Andrew: challenging cup to get a Memorial Cup.

26:28Justin: He has a Memorial Cup.

26:29Andrew: He has a Memorial Cup.

26:30Justin: He has two OHL championships.

26:33Andrew: Two Ohl.

26:34Justin: Both with the Rangers. All three of those with the Rangers. He is an offensive juggernaut with a lethal slap shot. Famously, once broke a goalie mask in half with a shot.

26:47Andrew: Oh, my.

26:48Justin: He also won the Max Kaminsky award for the OHL's best defenseman.

26:54Andrew: Oh, we got a defenseman then. You know.

26:58Justin: He got drafted 15th overall in 1981. He won a connsmythe. A. Norris a Stanley cup in 1989 with the Calgary Flames. My first submission has two gold medals, and it is Al McInnis.

27:15Andrew: I believe he also once hit Martin Brodeur where you don't want to get hit. And the man was coughing up blood.

27:23Justin: He was. He's broken a lot of stuff in his career and somehow still was playing in 2004. That is the most baffling point to me.

27:30Andrew: Al McInnis is a great submission. I loved him as a player. I didn't know him as a flame, so I. That was great.

27:36Justin: That's good for you.

27:37Andrew: But yeah, as a. As a St. Louis Blue, always thought he was the coolest because he was doing that also with wooden sticks. Could you imagine if he had the flex of a compasses? Oh, yeah, yeah.

27:49Justin: There would. There would be. They would have to clear out the front rows.

27:52Andrew: Yeah, well, you couldn't sell tickets behind the net.

27:54Justin: Yeah. Yeah. Al McInnis. That's my submission.

28:00Andrew: All right. That's exciting. Yeah. Okay. Well, I was really excited about this as soon as you said, we'll come up with our own nominations and we'll bring them in. Yeah. I was like, I know exactly who I'm bringing in because he was one of my favorite players of all time in the NHL who was not an Edmonton Oiler.

28:19Justin: Interesting.

28:19Andrew: All right.

28:20Justin: Yep.

28:20Andrew: He has 292 points in 233 games with the Kitchener Rangers.

28:27Justin: That's a lot of games.

28:28Andrew: Right. But in the NHL, he wasn't necessarily known as an offensive juggernaut. He was a two way force, all right. He is the all time Kitchener Rangers leader in shorthanded goals, which tells you what kind of grit and fight that this man has in him.

28:44Justin: Yeah, right.

28:45Andrew: He was the captain of the team that not just won the OHL championship, but also the Memorial Cup in 2002, 2003. He is part of a very small club that has the OHL Championship, the Memorial Cup, the Stanley cup, the World Junior Hockey Championship, gold medal and an Olympic gold medal. This guy won everywhere he was going. He won everything he could possibly win. And he survived beating the captain of the Philadelphia Flyers, which might be the most impressive thing that he did. It came out on the other side, won a cup with the Los Angeles Kings when they weren't supposed to win it. My choice for my first entry into the Groats tournament,

29:40Justin: Mike Richards. It's a great pick.

29:43Andrew: It's a great pick. Love the guy.

29:45Justin: Yeah, I think we got some pretty solid picks here for our first overall. Oh yeah. After looking through the list, actually, like these are solid, but there's some other. Oh man, there's some dudes.

29:58Andrew: There have been. There have been so many incredible players who've come through Kitchener and being incredible. Kitchener Rangers. And not just like gone on and done incredible things, but just been like amazing hockey players in Kitchener. So we are going to narrow down how much we weigh what they did in Kitchener.

30:18Justin: Yeah.

30:18Andrew: Compared to what they did after. Because it would be unfair to players who maybe didn't have as good a career as later on, but were so important to Kitchener.

30:27Justin: I think they should definitely be about. More about what they did for the Rangers for sure. So for sure, these guys were both successful in their Rangers career and in their NHL career. Yes.

30:37Andrew: Which will be hard to beat.

30:38Justin: Which will be hard to beat. But that won't be the deciding factor. It will be about their.

30:43Andrew: About their Ranger.

30:45Justin: Absolutely few thank yous as always.

30:48Andrew: As always.

30:48Justin: Mr. Ken Born logos, the Twitter. He's. He made some postcards for us. We got after.

30:54Andrew: That's exciting.

30:54Justin: You know, he's doing.

30:55Andrew: Way to hand those out to you.

30:57Justin: You, all of you. So Ken Born thank you.

31:00Andrew: Thank you.

31:01Justin: Prodigal producer Liam.

31:02Andrew: Liam. The phenom.

31:04Justin: The phenom. the Aud exchange for hosting us this week.

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